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Ott-Senators Digest Monday, October 20 1997 Volume 01 : Number 069
In this issue:
Re: Neckar
Re: Snippets from the Sun
Re: Neckar
Redden ,,, trade ???
Re: Snippets from the Sun
Hossa
RE: Neckar
Alf/Yashin after the goal
Re: Neckar
Report from the minors
Re: Yash and Alfie?
Re: Redden ,,, trade ???
Re: CBC and the Leafs
Comment during the preseason...
Re: Report from the minors
Re: Redden ,,, trade ???
Ottawa Senators Online
leaf game tonight
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:32:18 -0700
From: Jim Armstrong
Subject: Re: Neckar
Parker, Andrew wrote:
>
> Quick question: what is the proper pronunciation of Stan Neckar's
> last name? Someone said it is *Nea-cash*. Is this accurate?
>
I think it's like this.
Nets-cash
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:28:42 -0700
From: Jim Armstrong
Subject: Re: Snippets from the Sun
> A bit from Scott Morrison's column (see the whole thing by checking the
> OSFIN page at www.sensfans.com)
>
> ON THE HILL: It's no secret the Senators are looking to deal a defenceman
> and have had talks with several clubs, including the Red Wings, who are
> looking for help on the blue line. The Sens offered up Sean Hill in a
> package with Jason York, but were turned down. If they decide to deal Stan
> Neckar, the Red Wings may bite. The Hawks and Panthers both have talked to
> Ottawa about Hill.
Any word on where they got this information?
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:20:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ruski Raccoon
Subject: Re: Neckar
Close. Nets-cash is as close as our Canadian accent will allow.
> Quick question: what is the proper pronunciation of Stan Neckar's
> last name? Someone said it is *Nea-cash*. Is this accurate?
>
>
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Ruski
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 16:11:14 EDT
From: email@hidden
Subject: Redden ,,, trade ???
Hi guys,
I'm just spreading an un-substanciated rumour. This morning a janitor at
my university came into my office. He knows what a big Sens fan I am. He asked
what's all this talk about Redden being traded. I said 'get out ..'. His friend
has a Sens page on the web. his friend is supposedly in the know, His friend
told him that somebody in the organization told him PG is considering an offer
for Redden. My first reaction is no way will PG trade Redden. But I suppose
if the offer high enough ? It would have to be a young player with as much
potential as Redden. You never know .... BTW: this janitor was serious and
insisted he hadn't confused Redden with another D-man. Does Daze have as
much potential as Redden ? (The Daze part is just me speculating who it could
be ... I know Daze's name keeps coming up in trade rumours).
Stephen
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:12:03 -0400
From: email@hidden (Thomas Curran)
Subject: Re: Snippets from the Sun
>> A bit from Scott Morrison's column (see the whole thing by checking the
>> OSFIN page at www.sensfans.com)
>>
>> ON THE HILL: It's no secret the Senators are looking to deal a defenceman
>> and have had talks with several clubs, including the Red Wings, who are
>> looking for help on the blue line. The Sens offered up Sean Hill in a
>> package with Jason York, but were turned down. If they decide to deal Stan
>> Neckar, the Red Wings may bite. The Hawks and Panthers both have talked to
>> Ottawa about Hill.
>
>Any word on where they got this information?
Wherever sports writers get their stuff. They all have contacts, they talk
with each other, they listen to the senators mailing list...
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Tom Curran
gosensgo (tm)
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:17:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: email@hidden
Subject: Hossa
You can check out Hossa'a WHL stats at:
http://www.canoe.com/WHLStats/portland9798stat.html
steve
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:05:51 -0400
From: Paul Hurley
Subject: RE: Neckar
On Monday, October 20, 1997 1:47 PM, Parker, Andrew
[SMTP:email@hidden] wrote:
> Quick question: what is the proper pronunciation of Stan Neckar's
> last name? Someone said it is *Nea-cash*. Is this accurate?
The NHL official guide says it's pronounced *NEHTS-kahrzh*
Paul
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:54:19 -0400
From: Trevor Boicey
Subject: Alf/Yashin after the goal
I saw the highlight again twice on the news. Hard to
say what happened.
It seems thet Alf was in ahead of Yashin, it made sense
to me to try to stuff it in. However, after the goal,
Yashin didn't seem to celebrate at all, he seemed to just
head back to the bench.
It looks like Alf heads in the direction of Yash after
celebrating with the third forward on the ice, but the
replay ended there. Don't know if he caught him, or if
they just went back to the bench.
Hmm... I didn't think much of the thread, but seeing
the replays with the thread in mind, I had another
thought about it.
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Trevor Boicey
Ottawa, Canada
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:36:05 -0400
From: Dave Bush
Subject: Re: Neckar
At 01:46 PM 10/20/97 -0400, Parker, Andrew wrote:
>Quick question: what is the proper pronunciation of Stan Neckar's
>last name? Someone said it is *Nea-cash*. Is this accurate?
Nets-cash
Rather ironic in the present day NHL's over inflated salaries, eh?
- - Dave
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:41:34 -0400
From: Carl Flintoff
Subject: Report from the minors
Looking at the Portland stats got me curious as to how other Sens minor
league players are doing. First I will list where you can find the
Detroit Vipers and Worcester Ice Cats stats.
Detroit - http://www.canoe.ca/StatsHKI/BC-HKI-STAT-DETSTAX-R.html
Worcester - http://canoe3.canoe.ca/StatsHKA/BC-HKA-STAT-WORSTAX-R.html
Of all the players on the Vipers who were considered in training camp,
only Beddoes and Bicanek are doing well, at least in terms of points,
Beddoes having 7 and Bicanek having 4. In 7 games Derek Armstron Phil
Crowe and Jason Zent (Zent only played 4 games) only have a point each,
Crowe having 23 penalty minutes as well.
On Worcestor, the players doing well are Mike Prokopec and Ivan
Ciernek. They each have 5 points in 5 and 6 games respectively. Justin
Hocking has 27 penalty minutes in 6 games.
email@hidden wrote:
>
> You can check out Hossa'a WHL stats at:
> http://www.canoe.com/WHLStats/portland9798stat.html
>
> steve
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:34:07 -0400
From: Larry Shute
Subject: Re: Yash and Alfie?
>
> On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Thomas Curran wrote:
> > And afterwards - Alfie is getting hugs from everyone except Mr. Yashin.
> >
> > Anyone who was there - did the reply show the whole story?
Chris Keating wrote:
> I dont disagree with Alfie's decision to shoot instead of passing,
> given the way he fooled Turek into giving him a hole. However, it was
> pretty distinct how they avoided each other after the goal. They didn't
> even look at each other to the best of my knowledge. I hope things don't
> continue like this.....
>
As you noted in your original post Tom, there were a number of incidents
last year. There are two notable ones that I recall: one was in the
Detroit game at the end of the year and the other was in one of playoff
games with Buffalo. The one in Detroit was very similar to last
night...a two-on-one with Alfie with the puck on the left wing...Yashin
was open, but Alfie shot and did not score...if looks could kill.
I also thought I noted a similar thing in Friday's Jersey game on
Yashin's backhand "pass" to Alfie from behind the net--although it
looked to me like Yashin was trying to spin back to get the puck, not
pass it, but the defenceman took him. MacEachern went to hug Yashin,
while the others went to Alfie. I do not recall seeing the big group
hug, but there may have been one.
I am not sure who to blame for this--probably both--but it could become
a problem. IMO, the captain, or the coach or the GM ought to get this
under control right now.
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:13:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: George Valenzuela
Subject: Re: Redden ,,, trade ???
On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 email@hidden wrote:
> I'm just spreading an un-substanciated rumour. This morning a janitor at
> my university came into my office. He knows what a big Sens fan I am. He asked
> what's all this talk about Redden being traded. I said 'get out ..'. His friend
PG was quoted as saying he wouldn't trade a prospect or youth ... he
better not go back on that statement with Redden !
George Valenzuela (email@hidden)
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:19:27 -0400
From: Larry Shute
Subject: Re: CBC and the Leafs
Paul Hurley wrote:
>
>
> Why this sudden attention to the Leafs by the powers that be, anyway?
Took me awhile to get to this one.
In a word--money. Toronto and its performance determine the value of the
Canadian TV contract, which is shared revenue. Winners in big markets
are a key to revenue maximization for a sports league as a whole. That
is part of the reason why the league is not totally against some free
agency. It allows the big market teams to buy winners, which tends to
make them all better off. It makes it hard for the small market teams,
but the large- and medium-markets really do not care about the
small-market teams anyway. The small market teams roles are (1) to be
used as examples of how salaries are driving businesses into the ground
during collective bargaining negotiations and (2) to be used to justify
publicly-subsidized arenas by threatening to move. In the latter case,
it is always helpful to have three or four unfilled markets to give some
credibility to the threat.
After
> all, Toronto has had a dreadful team for most of the past 30 seasons, and the
> fans still come.
But all teams and the CBC would be better off if Toronto spent some more
money, but Stavro's self-interest is too strong.
Shouldn't the NHL be concerned with the health of other
> franchises, like the Kings (huge market, low attendance after loss of Gretzky),
> the 'Canes (new market, empty arena) or the Islanders (ownership mess)?
>
If it does not take any money out of their pocket, they do not care. The
answer for L.A. is a new rink with better revenue-generating
ability--and maybe new owners with lots of money, maybe in a new city.
The league did not care about the Whalers in Hartford, why care about
the 'Canes?
On the Isle, a fraud attempts to buy the team and it falls through.
Legitimate buyers willing to pay a higher price than the fraudulent
buyer are found.
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:06:13 -0700
From: Jim Armstrong
Subject: Comment during the preseason...
Carl Flintoff wrote:
>
> So much for the Rangers being an easy 2 points for Ottawa
>
Well, we beat them 5 - 1... Bet we never saw that coming.
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 21:49:00 +0000
From: Wade
Subject: Re: Report from the minors
At 07:41 PM 10/20/97 -0400, Carl Flintoff wrote:
>Of all the players on the Vipers who were considered in training camp,
>only Beddoes and Bicanek are doing well, at least in terms of points,
>Beddoes having 7 and Bicanek having 4. In 7 games Derek Armstron Phil
>Crowe and Jason Zent (Zent only played 4 games) only have a point each,
>Crowe having 23 penalty minutes as well.
Zent has only played in four games due to the birth of his daughter.
Wade Rewey
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:15:55 -0700
From: Ken Mason
Subject: Re: Redden ,,, trade ???
email@hidden wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm just spreading an un-substanciated rumour. This morning a janitor at
> my university came into my office. He knows what a big Sens fan I am. He asked
> what's all this talk about Redden being traded. I said 'get out ..'. His friend
> has a Sens page on the web. his friend is supposedly in the know, His friend
> told him that somebody in the organization told him PG is considering an offer
> for Redden. My first reaction is no way will PG trade Redden. But I suppose
> if the offer high enough ? It would have to be a young player with as much
> potential as Redden. You never know .... BTW: this janitor was serious and
> insisted he hadn't confused Redden with another D-man. Does Daze have as
> much potential as Redden ? (The Daze part is just me speculating who it could
> be ... I know Daze's name keeps coming up in trade rumours).
Actually, I heared a rumour that Redden was going to Calgary for Fleury,
but at first I just snuffed it off.
Now, I'm worring...
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:20:52 -0400
From: Carl Flintoff
Subject: Ottawa Senators Online
My web page, Ottawa Senators Online has a new look. Take a look
everyone and tell me (via direct e-mail) what you think. I am always
happy to hear suggestions or comments. Thanks
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:35:48 -0300
From: wade mason
Subject: leaf game tonight
I think this will be a game that the Sens will miss a tought Guy
as the Leaf have a few rough tough guys
wade
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:39:57 -0300
From: wade mason
Subject: zent
All the time Jason Zent was here in PEI he was all ways ready to play
the rough stuff was not bad with the fist eather.
might be worth a look for the sens to bring him up[
wade
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